When We Quit Being Defensive (Chelsea Handler)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8 • 900 Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2025

⏱️ 46 minutes

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Summary

Chelsea Handler shares my favorite stories from her new book I’ll Have What She’s Having, along with a few poignant lessons she’s gleaned while growing up. She talks about a pivotal conversation she had after Jane Fonda called her in; what she learned about the futility of defensiveness in therapy; and how we might tend to our jealous thoughts. We also talk about how Chelsea has big-sistered so many women, including me. And what I’ve learned from how comfortable she is with her own shadow and humanity, and how she does not project onto others. For the show notes, head over to my Substack. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, it's Elise Lunan host of Pulling the Thread. Today, I'm talking to my friend Chelsea Handler.
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0:55.8	and why we're here. My hope is that these conversations sparked moments of resonance and plant
1:01.2	tiny seeds of awareness so that we might all collectively learn and grow. Here's today's guest,
1:09.1	Chelsea Handler, on what happened when Jane Fonda called her in.
1:13.2	I couldn't believe it, but I had a choice there in the moment to accept it or defend it, you know,
1:19.1	and I just accepted it. And moreover, the louder marking of that conversation was that she had
1:25.0	taken the time to have a difficult conversation with someone
1:29.7	that I know now that she cared about. And that set up for me a kind of map of how I wanted to be
1:36.1	as a woman. Like, what am I going to do for other women? I'm willing to have those difficult
1:40.3	conversations too. I love Chelsea's story about that pivotal moment and why she gave up
1:45.3	being defensive after working with her therapist, which she'll share more about. Today, we also
1:50.3	talk about how Chelsea's learned to be honest with herself and how she still had some secrets to reveal
1:55.1	in her new book, all have what she's having. Oh my God, you guys, I took this book out to dinner with me on a trip
2:02.7	where I was by myself and I just sat at the bar and I laughed and laughed and laughed.
2:07.4	And multiple people tried to buy it for me. So there's probably going to be a really strong
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