What's up guys, welcome back to build.

And today we're going to talk about making some of the hardest decisions that you have to make as a CEO or as a founder of your company.

I wanted to make this podcast because it was top of mind because it's just something that I've been coaching a lot of people on my team on doing and a lot of people in my portfolio companies, operators, leaders in their

companies, because I think this topic is not talked about as much as it should be.

And it's saying that we have to deal with all the time.

And that is firing people, letting people go.

Now, I made a podcast on this recently, but I think, honestly, it was more instructional.

And I really want this one to be one that I'm just going to kind of give you all of my thoughts around this because I have a lot and I have

to make these decisions quite frequently, whether it's from my company or another company,

and I have to guide people on these decisions literally every week. And so I think that it would be really

helpful for some of you who maybe struggle with should I keep this person on the team or not.

I will tell you that though I sound composed when I talk about firing people, guys, I hate it

just as much as anybody else. Most of the time before I have to let someone go after a decade, a decade

of firing people, firing probably close to a hundred people personally myself, I still feel like

my heart is going to jump out of my body before I do it. I have stomach ache the days before

and I feel terrible. And the reason I feel terrible is because I think

what makes me love my job and what makes me good at what I do is also what makes those things

so hard for me. And that is the fact that I care about people. And I think about all the things before

I feel like someone to go. I think about the fact that they quit a job to be here. I think about

the fact that maybe they moved to work at our headquarters. I think about the fact that maybe they moved to work at our headquarters.

I think about the fact that they're gonna be really upset

and I'm not gonna be able to be there for them.

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