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The Heidi St. John Podcast

When Theology Goes to Extremes: Why Context is Critical in Scripture

The Heidi St. John Podcast

Heidi St. John

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.93.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2023

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

What is the role of women in the church? Can they be pastors? If not, why not? Can women teach theology at all? What does the Bible mean when it says women are to be “silent” in church? Join me and my guest, Pastor Phil Hopper, Sr. Pastor of Abundant Life Church in Lees Summit, MO for a discussion on theology in an age of extremes. SHOW NOTES

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0:00.0

Hey, everyone, this is Heidi St. John. Thanks for tuning in today. You guys have found me

0:04.4

at my little corner of the internet. This is the off the bench podcast for the next three days.

0:09.2

Pastor Phil and I are going to be tackling some really important cultural issues that we are

0:13.8

wrestling with in the church right now in an age of extremes. And today we're going to be talking

0:18.2

about the role of women in the church. Can they be pastors? If not, why not? Can women teach theology

0:23.6

at all? What does the Bible mean when it says that women are to be silent in church? You guys

0:28.9

are going to be fantastic conversations. Stick around. I think you're going to be encouraged.

0:40.9

All right, you guys. Well, thanks for tuning in today. I'm going to jump right into this. Pastor Phil,

0:45.0

my friend, my goodness. It's a joy to see you. Always exciting to be back on the podcast, Heidi. So

0:51.1

thankful for you. And I'll get to see you in person very soon. Coming up to I hope

0:55.7

dedicate the new building. Very, very exciting times for you, Heidi. We're very excited. The

1:00.3

Lord's on the move. Like there's so many things happening in the culture. I think, you know,

1:04.5

reasons for people to feel discouraged, but we don't need to feel discouraged because God's still

1:07.9

moving mountains, amen? Yeah, in all the bad news. We need to focus on the good news. And the good

1:12.5

news is like I'm convinced there's another Jesus revolution going on, Heidi. You know, we hear

1:18.0

all about the Gen Zs leaving the face and, you know, the lunacy, the craziness of our times. But

1:23.6

I'm meeting teenagers and 20 somethings that are first generation Christians.

1:28.6

Mom and dad is out there somewhere and, you know, the solar system somewhere. And, you know,

1:34.0

and here they are finding Jesus pursuing the Lord. So there's a lot to be encouraged about, Heidi.

1:39.2

Yeah. Praise God. It's so good. Last a couple weeks ago, I called you and I told you,

1:44.6

I'm kind of upset. I'm hearing kind of rumblings of sort of this, what I feel to be extra biblical

1:50.4

and divisive teaching in the church, whereby we're hearing pastors say that women do not have a

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