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Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

When Stress Becomes Illness (Gabor Maté, M.D.)

Pulling The Thread with Elise Loehnen

Elise Loehnen

Society & Culture, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Education

4.8900 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2022

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

“Where in your life where you're not saying yes, but there's a, yes. That wants to be said where there's some desire for self expression or creativity or way of being that you're stifling because you're trying to stay in an attachment relationship rather than being yourself. So where are you still choosing attachment over authenticity? If the two are in conflict now, ideally we will form relationships with partners and spouses and, and families and friends where we can have both authenticity and attachment. But if that's not possible, this is the challenge for all of us. What are we gonna choose? Are we still gonna choose the attachment or we're gonna go for authenticity. And I'll tell you, health wise, we pay a huge price. If we go for the attachment by stranding authenticity. And so, as we say in the book, the loss of authenticity inauthenticity, it may not have been a choice to the child. It's not like they had a choice in a matter, but authenticity can be a choice to the adult,” so says Dr. Gabor Maté, renowned physician and four-time bestselling author, who joins me today to discuss his newest book, The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture. With over four decades of clinical experience, Gabor is a sought after expert on addiction, trauma, childhood development, and unraveling the relationship between stress and illness. In his new book, he brilliantly dissects our understanding of “normal,” exploring the role of trauma, stress, and societal pressures play in our mental and physical well-being.  Chronic diseases are not interruptions to our lives, but rather manifestations of how we live, Dr. Maté tells us. Very few diseases are genetically predetermined, he says, emphasizing that it is our environment that brings any genetic predispositions we may have to fruition. Starting in childhood, when we begin to disconnect from our authentic selves in order to maintain attachment relationships, most of us live a life where some combination of trauma, emotional pain, and separation from self play a major, yet unexplored, role in our health. Without a grounding in trauma-informed study, western medicine often fails to treat the core wounds that make us sick, leaving us vulnerable to mental illness, auto-immune disease, and addiction. When we recognize our maladies not as independent identities but as bodily expressions of mental suppressions, we can become empowered adults who choose to rediscover an authentic self we lost somewhere along the way. It is only through self-retrieval, Dr. Maté shares, that we can truly begin healing.  EPISODE HIGHLIGHTS: Chronic illnesses are representations of our lives…10:00 Childhood wounds…21:00 Addiction as a coping mechanism is response to trauma…42:00 Soul retrieval…48:00 MORE FROM DR. GABOR MATÈ: Read The Myth of Normal: Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a Toxic Culture as well as other books by Gabor Maté Explore Dr. Maté's Website Follow him on Twitter and Instagram To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, it's Elise Lunan host of Pulling the Thread. Today's guest is the wonderful Gabor Mate,

0:07.5

a friend and brilliant doctor who is the author of many incredible books about healing and addiction,

0:12.8

including his latest, The Myth of Normal, Trauma, Illness, and Healing in a toxic culture.

0:22.0

You know where that is?

0:24.8

An ice cold beer.

0:26.8

What's different?

0:29.7

It's Budweiser.

0:31.3

Food longer for a refreshing, smooth taste.

0:38.3

Like no other.

0:42.3

Cheers to that. Budweiser, like no other.

0:44.3

Please drink responsibly.

0:46.3

For the facts, visit drinkaware.co.com.

0:48.3

U.K. Hi, it's Elise Lunan, host of Pulling the Thread. I'm an author, podcast host and parent who built a long career in media. I grew up in a state of perpetual curiosity, investigating the world and asking a lot of questions.

1:13.6

In this show, I chat with culture defining leaders, thinkers, and experts about this rare moment that we find ourselves in,

1:21.6

and how to think about our own lives and experiences within a larger social and spiritual construct. Where in your life are you not saying yes?

1:30.3

What is a yes that wants to be said?

1:32.3

Where there's some desireful self-expression or creativity or way of being that you're stifling

1:39.3

because you're trying to stay in attachment relationship rather than being yourself.

1:46.0

So where are you still choosing attachment over authenticity if two are in conflict?

1:52.0

Now ideally, we'll form relationships with partners and spouses and families and friends

2:00.0

where we can have both authenticity and attachment.

2:03.6

But if that's not possible, this is the challenge for all of us.

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