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🗓️ 24 June 2020
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Two stories on incarceration and coronavirus: an update from Lawrence Bartley, whose time sheltering in place has him reflecting on his time in prison, and a woman who wrote to him, worried about her incarcerated husband's safety.
For more conversations with Lawrence, here is our first one from 2014, a follow-up with his wife Ronnine from 2017, and our check-in with both of them a few months after he was released in 2018, and read his essay for The Marshall Project here.
You can find our WNYC colleagues' work here: "Dispatches from People Stranded in Place," "Inside the Prison Pandemic," and "Keeping Released Prisoners Safe and Sane." And don't forget to check out the latest season of Ear Hustle.
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0:00.0 | I remember you so always telling me that when I couldn't see, when I was in Crossway, |
0:06.7 | I couldn't see the outside world at all. |
0:08.8 | What I could do is hear it from the phone conversation. |
0:12.6 | And it felt like my sense of hearing would heighten because I could tell what room she |
0:16.8 | was in based upon the kind of air right here. |
0:19.8 | I could tell when she's in the car. |
0:21.6 | I could tell when she's outside, when she's walking. |
0:24.2 | I could tell by her breath that she's doing something different. |
0:28.8 | And I still have that extra sense, like the height and sense of hearing. |
0:33.4 | So now that we're sheltering in place, everyone is forced to pick up another sense or enhance |
0:41.3 | what other senses they have. |
0:46.4 | This is Death, Sex, and Money from WNYC. |
0:49.6 | I'm Anna Sale. |
0:54.1 | In many communities in the country right now, people are having to decide how close |
0:58.6 | they feel comfortable being with people they live near, as rules keeping us apart |
1:03.2 | have started to shift. |
1:05.4 | But some people have not had the option of distance, including the 2.3 million people |
1:11.3 | in America's jails and prisons. |
1:13.8 | And coronavirus is inside those walls with them. |
1:17.2 | More than 46,000 inmates have tested positive for coronavirus, and at least 548 have died |
1:24.0 | from it, according to the Marshall Project and the Associated Press. |
1:27.7 | They say that, you know, listen, my bump is three feet away from someone else's bump. |
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