Thank you for listening to the Allender Center podcast.

I'm Dr. Dan Allender.

And I'm Rachel Clinton-Centen.

We're fiercely committed to providing hope and healing to a fragmented world.

And restoration for the heart.

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Let's get this conversation started.

Rachel, we're beginning a series on the killers of community and things that keep a family, a marriage, friendships, larger collectives from actually growing in joy in communion. And let me just name them, and then

we'll step into the first. And that is the category of rage.

And we're going to need quickly to acknowledge what a complex category,

because we do not want to say that there is something wrong with all anger. But nonetheless, rage, scapegoating, and rage always requires someone to turn

that inner violence on. So we'll eventually deal with the category of scapegoating. And then

we end up hiding. And I'm going to use the word masking, but again, I don't want people to mishear.

We're not talking about wearing appropriate masks on behalf of others in the middle of the COVID era.

But the kind of masking is to be in a presence of not being who you really are, a kind of inauthenticity, a lack of sincerity,

or hypocrisy. And then the final is sabotage. So just to say, what keeps us from engaging well

with one another? And I know you have a lot to say with regard to the intersection of rage and righteous anger.

Yeah, as you were saying, Dan, I think these are very tricky places to enter.

And I think we, I've heard you say this a lot.

And I've always appreciated this kind of framework that to not enter

tricky waters is a lot of cowardice, but to enter them, there's kind of a built-in foolishness.

So I know we're in a place like that because part of what I'm feeling is people tend to feel

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