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Thank you. Thank you. This is Our Body Politic. I'm the creator and host, Farai, Chidea. This week, the pandemic is still very much with us, and we'll look at that from different angles. We're going to start with what we need to know about COVID-19 vaccinations and vaccine refusal. Dr. Lena Wen is a physician, CNN medical analyst, and Washington Post-contist. In her book Lifelines, she goes through her professional journey as a public health expert

and dives into her personal background as an immigrant to the U.S.

She's here to help the our-body politic community make sense of the latest COVID-19 news.

Dr. Wen, welcome. Thank you so much. Great to

join you today. Let's start with the FDA's approval of the Pfizer vaccine. Do you think that's

going to change who gets vaccinated and why? Well, I think the full approval by the FDA will make a big

difference, but not in a direct way. I think that people

were in a sense using this as an excuse for why they have not been vaccinated. I think the much

bigger difference is going to come from employers, from schools, colleges, universities,

restaurants, cities, municipalities, etc., now saying this is

fully approved, there's no reason for us not to do employer mandates at this point. That is

what's going to make the biggest difference. If vaccines are required for travel, if they are

required to go to restaurants, to bars, you're going to see a lot of people

who are on the fence previously saying, okay, this is the nudge, the push that I need in order to get

the vaccine. Some municipalities are already doing things like that, but it's not at that

level on the federal level. And you've advocated for the administration, the Biden-Harris

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