So we were trying to help him, like, understand how to live as a Christian in a context like ours with wisdom, but also clarity.

And he was in a workplace where he was employed by, I believe, a tech company, and they were doing mandated pronouns.

You know, you had to put pronouns in your email signature, and you had to use other people's pronouns.

And he refused, and they fired him.

Outstanding is a production of the Washington Stand,

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Welcome to the Outstanding podcast, the podcast where we take on issues in the politics and news from a biblical worldview.

I'm your host, Casey Harper.

Here's a question, should pastors get involved in

politics? Maybe you want them to, maybe that's the last thing on your mind. Well, we have a pastor

on the show today who did just that and is taking some fire. Pastor Chase Davis, he's the lead pastor

of the ministry of the Well Church in Boulder, Colorado.

He's also an author. He wrote Trinitarian Formation, a theology of discipleship in light of the father, son, and spirit.

And he hosts the podcast Full Proof Theology.

We also have here in studio, Jared Bridges.

He's a pastor himself, an editor-in-chief of the Washington stand. So it was great to

have both of you in here with this today. Great beer. Thanks for having me. Sure. I want to start

with you, Pastor Davis, I guess I'll call you, who has a Texas flag in the background, which is

great news for me. I'm a Texan. Jared's a Tennessean,

but I think we have a lot of common southern grit and stand up for what we believe in,

which really comes in handy for this topic. And that's kind of what got you in the center of

this story about a pretty controversial Colorado law. Can you tell us about what the

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