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When it comes to harassment, are federal judges above the law?

Consider This from NPR

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🗓️ 3 March 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

People who work for the federal court system don't have the same kinds of job protections that most other Americans do.

A nearly year-long NPR investigation has found problems with the way the courts police sexual harassment and bullying...and a pervasive culture of fear about blowing the whistle.

A warning to our listeners, this piece contains a description of sexual assault.

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0:00.0

In 2020, as the coronavirus pandemic began to shut things down, a recent law school graduate started a new job all the way across the country in Alaska.

0:09.6

She accepted a coveted post as law clerk for a federal judge.

0:13.6

It's kind of like a unicorn. It's a position that follows you for the rest of your life.

0:17.9

It's on the top of your resume. It's, you know, people pay attention to it,

0:22.5

especially a federal court clerkship. The clerk hoped this job would jumpstart her career.

0:28.0

She didn't know anyone else there, only the judge. The judge was the HR department. The judge was my

0:34.2

boss. The judge was a colleague. The judge was everything. He had all the power.

0:40.6

He started testing her boundaries early on.

0:43.1

It started immediately the inappropriate conversations. There was a lot of talk, you know, about the judge's personal relationships, about sexual relationships.

0:52.6

She says she thought it was part of her job to listen to the judge and help him with anything. He was going through a divorce and he began to text her constantly to the point where her phone felt like an electric leash. You know, I never had respite from being just a few text messages away from him. It was constant. It was during work. It was after work.

1:13.2

It was all the time. That pressure built. In the summer of 2022, things got worse.

1:19.3

That's when he told me he'd been communicating with this prosecutor that was appearing before him.

1:24.3

And she had been sending nude photos. And that was the breaking point for me, where I decided I needed to leave.

1:31.1

She stayed in Alaska, but she got a new job as a federal prosecutor.

1:34.8

And this, she hoped, would put an end to the ordeal.

1:38.3

As it turned out, that was wrong.

1:43.0

Consider this.

1:44.5

People who work for the federal court system don't have the same kinds of job protections

1:48.7

that most other Americans do.

1:51.2

A nearly year-long NPR investigation has found problems with the way the court's police sexual

1:56.2

harassment and bullying and a pervasive culture of fear about blowing the whistle.

2:06.1

From NPR, I'm Ari Shapiro.

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