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Messages by Desiring God

When I Don’t Desire God (Part 3)

Messages by Desiring God

Desiring God

Sermons, Religion & Spirituality/christianity, 163859, Desiring God, John Piper, Preaching, Christianity, Messages, Religion & Spirituality

4.71.7K Ratings

🗓️ 20 August 2005

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

The fight for faith is a fight for joy. But we can only press on because God enables us with his sufficient grace.

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The name of this conference is How to Fight for Joy, or When I Don't Desire God.

0:07.5

And I said that the aim is not to increase your comforts, but to sustain the sacrifice of love.

0:18.4

And I hope that's plain.

0:21.4

I said also that the aim is to join God in displaying his glory in the world because

0:29.3

God is most glorified in us when we are most satisfied in him. And so the pursuit of our joy in him is a pursuit of his glory.

0:41.0

And then we began some clarifications.

0:45.0

There are four of them.

0:47.0

We did one last night and there are three more.

0:52.0

The one last night And there are three more.

0:53.5

The one last night was the fight for joy is a fight for joy in God. It's not a fight for joy in general. I remember one conversation I had

1:12.1

with a seminary president critiquing the term and the vision that I call Christian

1:21.1

hedonism and he had it fixed in his mind. that I call Christian Hedonism.

1:23.1

And he had it fixed in his mind

1:25.7

that the philosophical meaning for the word

1:29.7

Hedonism was that happiness becomes the criterion for right and wrong and that is one of the

1:37.3

historic meanings for the word hedonism.

1:41.3

A hedonist in the old Greek sense was somebody who said whatever makes you

1:46.3

happy is right and whatever makes you unhappy is wrong. And so he took that definition and put it on my term and said that's a bad idea, Piper.

1:57.0

You shouldn't be promoting Christian hedonism.

2:02.0

And my response is that Christian Hedonism does not make happiness

2:11.8

the measure of right and wrong.

2:15.0

Christian Hedonism makes God the measure of right and wrong

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