When Harry Became Sally | Interview: Carole Hooven

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.6 • 6.3K Ratings

🗓️ 21 August 2025

⏱️ 75 minutes

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Carole Hooven, evolutionary biologist and nonresident fellow at the American Enterprise Institute, joins Jonah Goldberg to discuss the differences between gender and sex, homosexuality in the animal kingdom, and epigenetics. The Remnant is a production of The Dispatch, a digital media company covering politics, policy, and culture from a non-partisan, conservative perspective. To access all of The Dispatch’s offerings—including access to all of Jonah’s G-File newsletters—click here. If you’d like to remove all ads from your podcast experience, consider becoming a premium Dispatch member by clicking here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	I've ruled out uni because I want to live at home.
0:02.0	I've ruled out uni because I want to earn money.
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0:49.0	Daniel Diggins.
0:57.6	Greetings your listener. James. Ladies and your listeners,
0:58.5	Mr. Jonah Goldberg,
0:59.2	host of the Remnant podcast,
1:00.3	brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.
1:02.6	This is one of these very rare times
1:04.3	where I'm actually re-recording the intro.
1:06.9	So you're going to miss some of the witty banter and badinage
1:10.5	I had with today's guest.
1:12.0	But I just wanted to let listeners know, because I know for a fact that many listeners
1:17.0	listen with kids in the car.
1:18.5	It's not so much that we touch on controversial issues, which we do.
1:21.5	But we also use a lot of scientifically accurate terminology for various body parts that some people may not want
1:31.0	to hear themselves or may not want to hear around small children or whatever.
1:35.5	So I just thought I should let people know.
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