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Mark David Hall is going to be joining us.

I'm Rick Green here with David Barton and Tim Barton.

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wallbuilders.com and wallbuilders.com and wallbuilders.com. All right, guys, Mark David Hall will be with us later. We had a question actually from the audience.

So we'd normally do this on a Thursday, but we send it over to Mark David Hall and we'll

ask him about this, this Madison question of, was Madison anti-religion?

You know, was he some of the things he said in writings and things, does that mean that he didn't, you know, support religion or

want religion to have any impact on the culture? So it's going to be a really interesting question

today. Yeah, and especially in the contemplations that for the anti-founding father being

Christian crowd, right, those that would advocate that, no, the founding fathers were deists or they, they

were people that rejected faith and rejected Christianity, whatever kind of accusations we hear.

And we've heard them all. Usually there's only a couple things that people will point to.

They'll point to Thomas Payne. They'll point to maybe like the Treaty of Tripoli from John Adams.

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