Welcome to Think Biblically,

Conversations on Faith and Culture,

podcast from Talbot School of Theology at Biola University.

I'm your host Scott Ray, Dean of Faculty and Professor of Christian Ethics.

And I'm your co-host Sean McDowell Professor of Apologetics.

We have a topic that we want to talk about just between Sean and me today.

We don't do this very often.

Normally we have guests as you know, but every once in a while there's a topic

that is a little more challenging to have a guest about and we felt like this one today is one

that we just wanted to talk about between the two of us.

You may be familiar with the events surrounding the allegations against Ravi Zakaraias that came out shortly, sort of the dam burst shortly after his death.

Some of the allegations began in 2018.

And I think there was, I think it's probably fair to say that there was a, as shown as you put it, a lack of curiosity

on behalf of the RZIM board and leadership to fully investigate these things while Ravi was still alive.

To their credit, the organization initiated a full-on investigation of this with a very reputable

law firm whose report just just recently came out and I

think well maybe the best first place to start showing you do you do a lot of the

same kind of traveling and speaking widespread apologist, evangelist that

Ravi has done.

And I know Ravi's had a big impact on you both personally and professionally.

What did you feel when you heard about this and read the report?

Yeah, I appreciate you asking that.

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