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Our American Stories

When Ben Franklin's Son Took the Loyalist Side in the Revolution

Our American Stories

iHeartPodcasts

Society & Culture, Documentary

4.6817 Ratings

🗓️ 3 April 2026

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Our American Stories, during the American Revolution, few family divisions ran deeper than the one between Benjamin Franklin and his son, William Franklin. While Benjamin Franklin became a leading voice for independence, William Franklin remained loyal to Britain, serving as a royal governor and standing firmly on the Loyalist side.

Our own Lee Habeeb shares the astonishing story of how Benjamin Franklin and his son ended up on opposite sides of history.

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0:00.0

This is an I-Heart podcast.

0:02.6

Guaranteed Human.

0:16.0

This is Lee Habib, and this is our American Stories, the show where America is the star and the

0:22.6

American people. And this next story is how the signing of the Declaration of Independence

0:28.5

divided the country and families, including one founder's family. You know, it's been said that

0:37.4

there's never been more partisan division than right now in the country.

0:42.3

Well, we're going to take you through a story that questions that narrative.

0:47.3

Historians who studied the matter differ as to the number of Americans who sided with the Patriots and the British Crown, but one thing

0:55.1

is certain, Americans were deeply divided. One third were for the war, one third were against it,

1:01.8

and one third were hiding under their tables, hoping it would pass. But the consequences for

1:08.1

choosing one side or another was not an ugly Facebook post or a tweet storm.

1:14.6

Here's one of the signers describing what it was like, putting name and pen to paper,

1:22.6

signing the Declaration of Independence in Independence Hall.

1:26.6

This is what Benjamin Rush said.

1:29.3

A pensive and awful silence pervaded the House,

1:34.3

as we were called up one after another,

1:36.3

to the table of the President of Congress,

1:39.3

to sign what was believed by many at the time

1:42.3

to be our own death warrant.

1:46.8

Rush, who was there at our founding and signed our birth certificate, was right.

1:51.6

You see, the British government considered the Declaration of Independence,

1:55.1

a treasonist document, and treason was a capital crime.

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