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What Will Happen With The TikTok Ban?

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πŸ—“οΈ 2 May 2024

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Congress and President Biden say TikTok must shed its financial ties to China or face a ban in the U.S. But Washington Post tech reporter Drew Harwell says selling the company is complicated.

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This is Fresh Air. I'm Dave Davies.

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A lot of people love Tik-Toc, the video sharing app, and some people love to hate it,

0:25.2

particularly in the United States Congress.

0:27.9

TikTok's parent company is based in China, and there are fears that it could harvest

0:32.2

data about its US users and provide it to the

0:35.0

Chinese government. Or that Tik-Tok's videos and algorithm could be programmed by the Chinese

0:40.0

Communist Party to influence Americans political and cultural views.

0:45.0

Last month in an extraordinary move Congress passed and President Biden signed a bill

0:50.2

requiring a forced sale of Tik-Tok to a non-Chinese buyer.

0:55.0

If the company isn't sold over a specified time period,

0:58.4

the law permits the US government to ban the app in the United States.

1:03.0

Tic-Toc vows to fight the move,

1:05.0

along with free speech advocates who say it would violate the First Amendment.

1:09.0

For some insight into what may happen and what it means,

1:12.0

we turn to Drew Harwell, a technology reporter for the

1:15.6

Washington Post who's been following the issue.

1:18.5

He's part of a team that won a George Polk Award in 2021 on how an Israeli firm Spyware was used to tap the phones of activists,

1:26.4

journalists, and business and political leaders across the globe.

1:30.5

Drew Harwell, welcome back to Fresh Air.

1:33.0

Thank you so much for having me.

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