From the ACLU, this is at Liberty. I'm your host, Molly Kaplan.

It's been almost half a year since George Floyd was killed by a Minneapolis police officer,

and the country erupted in protest demanding change.

It felt like a turning point in many ways, but was it? Since that day, some cities and states

have taken steps towards police accountability. The city of Minneapolis voted to defund

their police department. Iowa restricted chokeholds. New York repealed a law that kept

officers' disciplinary record secret,

and Virginia passed a law making it easier to desertify cops with a history of infractions,

and that's just to name a few. But in many cities and states that progress has met with resistance,

like in California, where police unions blocked a law that would have allowed officer of

misconduct to end their service. Given all that still needs to happen to address the systemic

injustices of policing in this country, we are rerunning a conversation we had shortly after

the protests erupted with our policing policy advisor, Paige Hernandez.

Police are supposed to protect and serve the community, but that's a far cry from what

modern-day policing often looks like in our country. The recent murders of Breonna Taylor,

Tony McDade, George Floyd, and others highlight the need for drastic systemic change yet again.

The ACLU is committed to advocating and litigating for that change. Following the lead of the

movement for Black Lives, we are calling for a new vision of policing, one where police have a

smaller footprint and presence in American life. Joining me to discuss and break it all down

is our policing policy advisor,

Paige Fernandez. But first, one of our producers, Rebecca McCrae, attended a protest on Monday

night in Brooklyn, New York, and spoke with three protesters about why they are calling for change.

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