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Hang Up and Listen

What Went Wrong in Boston?

Hang Up and Listen

Slate Podcasts

News, Sports, Sports News

4.6986 Ratings

🗓️ 19 May 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

Hosts Alex Kirshner, Lindsay Gibbs, and Ben Lindbergh discuss the surprisingly exciting NBA Conference semifinals and the downfall of the Boston Celtics’ aspiring dynasty. They also talk about Pete Rose’s newfound Hall of Fame eligibility, and the snooze-worthy PGA Championship. For Afterballs, Ben dives into Pope Leo’s sports allegiances.  On the bonus episode available exclusively for Slate Plus members, the panel welcomes journalist Erica Ayala to discuss the state of the Professional Women’s Hockey League. NBA playoffs (2:55): Bing Bong. Pete Rose to the HOF? (17:40): Could the infamous Red finally make it to Cooperstown? PGA Championship (33:09): Scheffler wins, does anyone care? Afterballs (45:31): Da Pope. (Note: time codes are only accurate for Slate Plus members, who listen ad-free.) Want more Hang Up and Listen? Subscribe to Slate Plus to immediately unlock weekly bonus episodes. Plus, you’ll access ad-free listening across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe now on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page, or visit slate.com/hangupplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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In late August 1992, Randy Weaver and his family were refusing to come down from the remote Idaho mountaintop where they lived.

0:39.8

Weaver, a fugitive on a federal firearms charge, has been holed up in a cabin near Naples for more than a year.

0:45.4

The government thought Randy Weaver was a dangerous, possibly violent extremist.

0:50.6

Randy and his wife Vicky thought the government was an agent of Satan on earth. When it was all over,

0:57.0

three people were dead, and the government had spent millions of dollars to catch one man.

1:02.6

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1:07.7

questions it raises. What should we do about white supremacists?

1:12.8

Why has the story of Ruby Ridge become an enduring myth for the far right?

1:17.3

And whose fault was it anyway?

1:21.0

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1:42.5

It is Monday, May 19, 2025. Welcome back to Hang Up and Listen, the sports podcast here at Slate.

1:49.0

Back with you again, I am Alex Kirshner. I'm a contributing writer for slate and i co-host split zone duo a national college football podcast what a show we've got on top for you this week we will talk about the chaotic

1:53.8

nba playoffs and the potential end of the boston celtics as we know them we'll discuss pete rose

1:59.3

being posthumously relieved of his persona non-grata

2:02.4

status in Major League Baseball. And we will also talk about a sort of suspenseful but not really

2:08.3

PGA championship won by Scotty Schaeffler on Sunday. There was drama, some of it just not really

2:13.5

on the leaderboard. As usual, joining me this week is Lindsay Gibbs, the publisher of

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