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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, the Spectators Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Max Jeffrey and I'm joined by Katie Bulls and James Forsyth.

So we retreated today to a nearly 12,000-word essay by Kirstama, The Road Ahead,

with quotes from Rahim Sterling, Mark Carney, and 10 principles

that he said the party would follow under his leadership. Katie, what did we learn?

Well, the essay was aimed at trying to set out and was the principles by which Kirstarma plans

to unveil his vision for the country on. I think the fact that this is happening

over a year since he became Labour leader almost says as much as the essay did. The fact that we still

need to have something to fill in on his vision shows that it has been fairly lacking. I think in terms

of the essay, there was some talk it could be 14,000. So I think perhaps the fact it was 12 fairly lacking. I think in terms of the essay, there was some talk it could be

14,000. So I think perhaps the fact it was 12,000 shows that it had been refined or tightened

ahead of being published. I think when it comes to what it was talking about, it was very focused

on the idea of a contribution society. So the idea that everyone has to give in to get something out and also

looking at security and opportunity. I think those big themes is also interest in the number

to have as business has mentioned. As I say in this week's politics column, I think there is an effort

by Kirstama and his team to try and move away from the Corbyn era where it's seen as very

anti-business labour as a party

and to suggest that they are pro-business, still with caveats in the sense that they are

pro-businesses that help people and pro-businesses that treat their staff well. But I think

you can see Labour trying to find some ground in being pro-jobs and suggesting that the Tories have not made conditions

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