Hi guys, I'm Gwyneth Paltrow. Welcome to the Goop Podcast.

Every Thursday, Goop editors will be sitting down with provocative thinkers, industry disruptors,

and culture changers. I'll take turns interviewing barrier-breaking

guests as we talk about shifting old paradigms and starting new conversations.

Today's guest, psychotherapist and sexuality expert Esther Peral, is redefining the way we all talk about sex,

infidelity, and intimacy. She's the author of Mating and Captivity and most recently, the State of Affairs,

and she also hosts her own fascinating podcast called Where Should We Begin?

Over the course of the episode, she invites listeners into her therapy room as she works with couples in real time.

Couples are suspended. It's where one person who wanted it more,

continue to keep the foot on the pedal. And when I say more, it's not just more frequent sexual acts.

I'm talking about that aura in the relationship, that energy, and the other person valued it.

Every conversation with Esther is a revelatory, and today she's talking with Elise Loonan,

our chief content officer here at Goop, about what typically goes wrong in the intimacy realm,

and how we can stoke real desire. Esther also contributed to our new book, The Sex Issue.

What turns her on is to be the turn on, because while the social role of women is to think about others,

in order to be sexual, she has to liberate herself from the burns of her social roles,

and engage in a more narcissistic experience, in the good sense of the word,

that entitlement, I can think about me, I can be selfish, my turn, and that's where she will find her desire.

After the conversation, I'll be doing a quick round of Ask Me Anything.

If you've got a burning or totally random question you want me to answer,

hit us up at Goop on Instagram or Facebook.

Now let's get to Elise and her interview with Esther Peral.

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