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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots. I'm Freddie Gray, the Deputy Editor of the Spectator, and I'm delighted to be joined today by our political editor, Tim Shipman.

Today we're going to be talking about this week's cover piece, which is Donald Trump,

the Gilded Age, because it's been just over a year since Donald Trump won re-election, and we've

had 10 months of frenetic governance from the Trump administration. And Tim Shipman went out

to Washington this week to get a sense of what Americans are saying about British politics, what British politicians are saying about America.

And I thought what was very interesting about your piece, Tim, which is excellent, by the way, is that you get this real sense from everybody outside of Washington that they desperately want to do what

Washington is doing. Even if they don't like Trump or even if they find Trumpian politics

appalling, they like the boldness and the fact that they seem to be getting stuff done.

Absolutely. I mean, I think most Brits, the ones living there, you know, who in Trump one, we're sort of phoning up and say, oh, this is all terrible. I've got to live here. Should I leave? And now they're sort of, well, he's doing what he said he'd do. And it's not as bad as we thought. And looking back home, I think I'd be emigrating if I was living back home. And that's true of British politicians. I think there's huge envy in Downing Street that this guy's come in and just done everything. And, you know, they played it quite canly. They've tried to be friends with him. They've got some benefit from his can-do kind of approach in terms of tariffs and the tech deal and that sort of thing we've signed. But most of the British political classes ask themselves, how's he done this? How do we do this? And even the sort of, you know, the Brits and official jobs in Washington are kind of, they're all kind of caught up in the excitement. And they look at this operation and they think this is, this is a, you know, this is a different beast from the first term. They came in, they knew what they wanted to do.

Most importantly, they'd prepared in advance. They had huge amounts of executive orders ready

to go. Now, you can't do executive orders in Britain, but you can get legislation ready to go.

You can write one-line bills to change the way the centre of government works. You can, you know,

you can have sort of reforms on important stuff like migration ready to rock and roll

and I mean Labor have kind of missed the boat and are looking at this with envy but forage and

reform are obviously in close contact with a lot of people in Maga World who I was saying you know if you

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