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Good morning. I'm Taylor Wilson. And today is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025. This is the excerpt.

Today, what's next after the death of Pope Francis? Plus, a major overhaul of the State Department is on the way,

and we discussed the latest on a pair of deported men in El Salvador.

In the wake of Pope Francis's passing, we now move toward his funeral, set for Saturday, and

later a conclave when the next pope will be selected. I spoke with USA Today, national correspondent

Marco Delacava, who previously covered a pair of conclaves to learn more about what's next.

Hello, Marco. Thanks for joining me on this. Yeah, my pleasure. So tell us a bit first about your experience covering conclaves and even a

papal funeral. Yeah, well, I was sent over to Rome by USA Today when John Paul II was

ailing and I think he literally died when I landed, and so I ended up covering

his funeral about a week later in St. Peter's Square, which was very dramatic. And then I stayed on

for a couple of weeks as the conclave unfolded that then elected Pope Benedict. And then I went back

a dozen years ago because Benedict rather abruptly decided to sort of retire. And so I went back

and covered the election of the late Pope Francis. Wow. And so what really stood out to you, Marco,

from those reporting trips? Well, it's a combination of things. It's sort of how political, the actual

voting ends up being, as many people might have

gleaned from watching the movie Conclave, which was Oscar nominated this year. It does a pretty

accurate job of sort of talking about the different factions and one person in the end, one

cardinal in the end, has to get two-thirds of the votes. So it's all the jockeying

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