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🗓️ 18 March 2022
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Sebastian talks to Russia expert and author David Satter about Vladimir Putin's rise to power, the similarities between the Soviet Union and Russia today, and more
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0:00.0 | The leader of the world, being the leader of the world means the leader of peace. |
0:07.0 | Peace in your country doesn't depend anymore only on you and your people. |
0:14.0 | It depends on those next to you and those who are strong. |
0:21.0 | Strong doesn't mean weak. Strong is brave and ready to fight for the life of his citizens and citizens of the world. |
0:33.0 | That was President Zelinski of Ukraine earlier this week in a special joint address to the members of Congress and the Senate. |
0:42.0 | How do we understand the last three weeks? What is the future scenario for war expansion in the Eurasian continent? |
0:51.0 | I am delighted. We've been working hard to get him on this show. He's been traveling in Europe. He is author Russia scholar David Satter, the author of one of the most important articles about the truth of the Soviet Union. |
1:05.0 | David, welcome in studio on one, on one. |
1:08.0 | I'm very glad to be here. David, when I first covered the war on my TV show on Newsmax and you know you always pick the elements, the headlines, the video, the B-roll, I went back to an article that you wrote I think for the Wall Street Journal on the hundred million deaths of communism. |
1:28.0 | And it is striking to me that despite having I think it's a 900 page tome, the blank book of communism that goes through every country's tragic history under communism from Russia to Vietnam, going through the numbers killed and imprisoned. |
1:45.0 | Your article is like a voice in the wilderness. It's one of the very few, if perhaps only article in the mainstream, quote, unquote media that tells the truth about communism has our understanding of Russia improved or gotten worse since then. |
2:02.0 | Well, it hasn't improved to that's for sure. We underestimated the evil of Vladimir Putin. We underestimated the evil of Boris Yeltsin. Of course, this is a post communist regime, but it has many communist features. |
2:22.0 | So we carried over into the new era a lot of the superficiality and unwillingness to look the truth in the eyes that characterized our behavior in previous decades. |
2:37.0 | And now we're paying a price for it because this was an avoidable war. I mean Churchill, when he spoke about the Second World War repeatedly said this war could, this was an avoidable war. |
2:51.0 | It was a war that took place because we didn't fail or the British and the French and well the Americans to some extent did not face the reality of Nazi Germany. Well, the war that we have now could have been prevented. |
3:07.0 | Had we taken steps similar to the ones that were taking now when they were first warranted and that was really in 1999. |
3:16.0 | You wrote the book, the less you know the better you sleep. Russia's roads to terror and dictatorship under Yeltsin and Putin. Let's start with the political transition from Yeltsin to Putin, who this person is. Why did Yeltsin, the man who was fated by the West as a quasi normal politician? |
3:42.0 | Why did he literally hand Russia to Vladimir Putin? Well, he was not only a fated as a normal politician. He was fated as the champion of democracy as the emblem of democracy as the sum total of democracy for the for Russia and the Russian people. |
4:05.0 | All that we had to do, we didn't have to think. All we had to do was back Yeltsin, he would do the rest. He would convert Russia into a democracy and a reliable Western ally, even a strategic ally. There were people who used that phrase. |
4:23.0 | But he was, in fact, he had the mentality of a communist boss, he had no respect for human life. He was thoroughly dishonest. He was thoroughly corrupt and his family was really at the epicenter of the massive theft of property that took place in Russia after the fall of the Soviet Union. |
4:47.0 | And the property at Union privatization, as it was called, the handover of property from the state to private individuals was, in fact, the seizure of property by criminal elements. And it was something that Yeltsin, in particularly Yeltsin's family, directed by the time we got to 1999. |
5:09.0 | Yeltsin's popularity rating in Russia was 2%. Now, there are some people who say that there was no one in Russia who actually supported Yeltsin because in a normal survey, 6% of the respondents don't understand the question. |
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