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For today's show, we're going to do something a little bit different.

I'm on vacation this week, so we're going to share a couple interviews I did with voters

in Cinee Valley, California back in late September.

I was there covering the second Republican primary debate talking to voters for a story that

I was doing for ABC News.

We were in Seamy Valley because it's the home of the Reagan

Library and that's where the debate was, but the politics of the place are actually

pretty fascinating and can tell us a lot about the state of the country today and even the upcoming

2024 election. And that's because of the actual political orientation of Semye Valley. So it's traditionally been conservative.

Actually in the mid-2000s a study of voting patterns found it was one of the most

conservative cities in America and it voted for the Republican candidate in every

single presidential election since the town was incorporated in the 1960s.

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