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The Esau McCaulley Podcast

What the Kendrick-Drake Beef Can Teach Us About Church Conflict

The Esau McCaulley Podcast

Esau McCaulley

Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

5.01.1K Ratings

🗓️ 14 November 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Ever wonder what a hip hop beef can teach us about disagreements in the church? Esau McCaulley sits down with friends Malcolm Foley and Justin Giboney to dig into the Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake saga and how it actually mirrors some of our own church conflicts. They chat about when disagreements are just for fun (LeBron vs. MJ) and when they go deeper, revealing what we truly believe. From handling low-stakes beefs to learning how to disagree without tearing each other apart, they dive into how conflict can help us grow, and maybe even bring us closer together.

Transcript

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0:00.0

So for this week's episode, because I was sick, I was running a little bit late.

0:05.6

And the people, rather than praying for me, apparently have some things to say.

0:10.3

What you're going to hear before the podcast start are my supposed friends slandering me before I arrived, battling through sickness to do this podcast.

0:20.7

Okay, you were 30 minutes late.

0:23.0

So he just wants to put us in our place.

0:31.5

Just flexing his muscles, man.

0:33.3

You know how they do.

0:36.6

We've all been around a leader like that.

0:38.2

That'll just do stuff just to flex. Like, yeah, because I can't. And you're going to come back too. You're going to come back to record this. Yeah. We are. I mean, look at us. We're like his puppets. Right. We all left the recording thing. You're like, all right, we'll find another time. and then Esau calls me a minute later.

0:55.2

I'm back. I'm coming. I'm coming.

0:57.0

I'm going to remember this if I ever come on this podcast again. Esau, Esau, Esau, Esau. It's a good thing he's so likable. Or is that like part of the weapon, though? You know what I mean? Is that real?

1:11.3

I'm questioning everything now.

1:13.3

Is that even genuine?

1:15.9

Or is that all part of the ploy?

1:18.2

It's all back on the table.

1:19.7

I think we have to question all of that.

1:22.5

Everything is suspicious.

1:24.0

Very suspicious.

1:25.7

Yeah.

1:26.2

Yeah.

1:26.8

You know, I'll tell you what. We found out he's never had a pumpkin spice latte before and

1:32.2

we had the whole Holy Post crew in and we made it.

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