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Hello and welcome to Coffee House Shots, The Spectators' Daily Politics Podcast.

I'm Isabel Hardman and I'm joined by Katie Balls and James Forsyth.

Well, we have a result in the Hartleypool by-election and the Conservatives have won with a remarkable 16% swing from Labour. James, this is a crisis for Kirstama as Labour leader,

isn't it? Yes, I mean what this result shows and the sheer size of the Labour defeat,

this is the biggest increase in a governing party's vote share in the by-election in the post-war era,

is that Kirstama hasn't stopped the bleeding in the Red Warelection in the post-war era is that keir's d'armour hasn't stopped the

bleeding in the red war for labour indeed the situation appears to be going backwards still further

and what this shows is that i think some people in the party rather hoped that 2019 was a kind of

almost a freak result driven by voters desire to kind of get Brexit done and their fear of Jeremy Corbyn.

Brexit is now, in inverted commons, done. Jeremy Corbyn has departed the stage.

Kea Starman has made a big thing about Labour being under new management and Labour are still

going backwards in these places. Now, as you said on this podcast yesterday, lots of Labour people

are saying, look,

voters aren't as angry as us as they were before. But what's quite clear is that even if voters

aren't angry, they see no positive reason to vote for Labour. And I think part of the challenge

here for Labour is, you know, where do they go? You know, the Tories have just paid the wages

of 11 million workers via the furlough scheme.

The half of the population just received their first dose of the vaccine. Obviously, these are

propitious circumstances for the government, but it suggests that the Vistory government is going

to come out of the kind of current COVID crisis stronger than it went into it. And you also add the fact that the Bank of England and

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