Joe Biden won the presidential election with the support of over 60% of Latino voters. And those votes were

especially critical in states like Arizona and Nevada.

But if you read some of the headlines following the election, you might get the sense that

Latinos were more of a hindrance than a help to Democrats.

You might also get the sense that no one anticipated Donald Trump's improvement among some Latino

voters.

That's not true either.

I spoke with Jenny Medina and Patty Maze of the New York

Times about what really happened, why it matters, and the role Latino reporters played in telling

the story of this incredible election. Jenny, what is your theory of the case of what happened with Latino voters in this election?

Oh, it's still too early for me to have a unified theory of the case. Part of me thinks like this was exactly what has happened historically.

Like, this is no different than what's happened in history where 30% of Latinos more or less

vote for a Republican. The thing that's so shocking, I think, to everybody is that even with Trump,

even with somebody who has, you know, used demagoguery and used racist rhetoric,

that there was still 30%. I think that's shocking to lots of people, both Latinos and

non-latinos. But I used to joke, or I still joke, that any Latino you talk to has at least one

family member who's a trumper.

Every single person I know, no matter if they live in East L.A. or New York or wherever,

they have at least one relative who's there.

So it's sort of like, well, if you know the lay of the land, this is all very predictable.

Patty?

I think maybe 2016 was an aberration that we think was going to be historical, right?

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