It's so funny because when you look at the guys, that's never a topic of conversation. Yeah. What you look like? Yeah. Did you watch the football last night? It's never about, I'll watch your skincare routine. Whereas women walk into a room and because we've been taught to be pitted against each other. Yeah. Not always, but sometimes there's, oh my God, you know, I can't. It's a bit of a barrier. Yeah, yeah. and it shouldn't be there.

We should be trying to change that stereotype. always, but sometimes there's, oh my God, you know, I can't. It's a bit of a barrier. Yeah, yeah, and it shouldn't be there.

We should be trying to change that stereotype, believing that there is space for everybody.

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Hello, Hidden Jams. I am with a very special guest today, a friend of mine, Susan Hendrix.

It's good to see you, Susan. Hello.

Good to see you, Lauren. Hey. Minnie might know Susan from her day's anchoring, HLN. And also, you were with CNN for many,

many years, even appearing with Anderson Cooper. And now you are the host of your own YouTube channel,

Headline Crimes with Susan Hendricks. Go subscribe. We love having you in this space and what you bring. You covered the Richard Allen trial.

That's where you and I met in Delphi, Indiana. And you covered Karen Reed, which I got to say,

well done on that. After Delphi, John and I were like, we're not touching anything controversial

for a while. And you were like heading. I'm like, I'm going you were like heading and like, I'm going in. I'm going in for a horse because I felt one way before I went. I felt another way after the fact. But there's a lot of victory all around it. Yeah. So your opinion was changed. That's interesting. Yeah. And thank you for that, you know, to show that opinions can be

changed. I always go into a story saying, change my mind, change my mind, you know, let's see what

happens. And I went into Delphi that way too. Like, let's find out. Let's see what's happening here.

And we, you and I, and this is why I invited you on, we were just in Boise, Idaho together,

attending the Brian Coburger sentencing,

although there's a story behind that.

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