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And I'm Joe Wisenthaw.

So, Joe, you know what I like to do during uncertain times.

Times of trouble.

Play with your dog, play with your puppy?

Yes, but that's a relatively new development.

But for a long time, I really like reading history books.

Whenever the world seems a little bit crazy, I like going back in time and finding other moments where things seem just as crazy.

See, I like stress eating when the world is really bad.

Yeah, stress eating is also enjoyable.

But the reason I bring it up is because in the current situation we've seen the

coronavirus pandemic there are a lot of historic parallels to this particular outbreak so of this

particular outbreak. So almost immediately when this whole thing started, people

started reaching back to the black death of the Middle Ages.

We also had people talking about parallels with the Spanish influenza

pandemic of 1918.

Lots of people looking at history to try to figure out what's going on right now and what the economy might actually

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