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What the Bible Says about Abuse Within Marriage

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Christianity Today

Religion, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.3622 Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2018

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Note: Malachi 2, ‘I hate divorce.’ Said by guest as 5:2, says “The man who hates and divorces his wife,” says the Lord, the God of Israel, “does violence to the one he should protect.” In 2000, Paige Patterson was asked about women who are abused by their husbands. Here’s what the now-president of Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary said: It depends on the level of abuse to some degree. I have never in my ministry counseled that anybody seek a divorce, and I do think that’s always wrong counsel. There have been, however, an occasion or two when the level of the abuse was serious enough, dangerous enough, immoral enough that I have counseled temporary separation and the seeking of help. I would urge you to understand that that should happen only in the most serious of cases. . . . More often, when you face abuse, it is of a less serious variety. These comments recirculated on social media over the weekend, not surprisingly sparking fierce criticism of Patterson’s remarks. On Sunday, Patterson released a statement where he clarified that his happiness in the situation came from seeing this woman’s husband return to church. He also said that physical or sexual abuse should be reported to the appropriate authorities, “as I have always done.” Patterson also stated that, “I have also said that I have never recommended or prescribed divorce. How could I as a minister of the Gospel? The Bible makes clear the way in which God views divorce.” Patterson’s statement seemed to suggest that abuse was not included as one of the ways in which divorce is biblically sanctioned. But that understanding isn’t really a biblical one, says Justin Holcomb, an ordained minister and the co-author of Is It My Fault?: Hope and Healing for Those Suffering Domestic Violence. “Sometimes people like to out-conservative the Bible. … I appreciate the desire stay to close to the authority of Scripture,” Holcomb said. But some Christians may be wary about sanctioning divorce after abuse because it’s not explicitly mentioned as a cause to end a marriage, despite the fact that the Bible speaks frankly about violence and abuse, he says. “In Psalm 11:5, the psalmist, referring to God, says ‘I hate the one who does violence and abuses,’” said Holcomb. “Some people want to quote Malachi 2, ‘I hate divorce.’ If that’s how that’s interpreted—which I’ve already put a question mark to—well you can find a whole bunch more passages that say that God hates the violent and the oppressor. Holcomb joined associate digital media producer Morgan Lee and editor in chief Mark Galli to explain how he interprets Malachi 2, if there is a theology or faith practice that correlates with spouse abuse, and if there’s a real tension between pursuing a biblical marriage and taking a hard line on domestic violence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This episode is brought to you in part by The Apologetics Guy Show, the podcast that helps you find clear answers to tough questions about Christianity.

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Learn to explain your faith with courage and compassion.

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Join Moody Bible Institute professor Dr. Mikhail del Rosario at Apologeticsky.com.

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Music Michael Del Rosario at Apologeticsguy.com. You're listening to Quick to Listen. Each week we go beyond hashtags and hot takes to discuss a major cultural event. I'm Morgan Lee, and I am at long last rejoined by Mark

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Lally. Hey, you look familiar. Hello, Mark. How are you? I'm doing well. I guess I just assumed

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so much familiarity that I didn't give either of our titles. I'm an associate digital media producer

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here at CT. And Mark is our editor-in-chief, podcast host, all the above.

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All the above. Awesome. It's great that you're back, Mark.

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I'm glad to be back, finally. I'm not going to do that again. I decided. I'd missed it too much.

1:03.5

Missed you too much. You just heard all these nice things that people were saying about it,

1:06.8

and then you realized that you hadn't been on in a month. Exactly. So maybe were they not saying it about you. Exactly.

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Still have that small ego, Denise Stroking.

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All right, so who's joining us today?

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Joining us today is Justin Holcomb.

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He is an ordained minister and adjunct professor of theology at Reform Theological Seminary, Orlando,

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and Gordon Conwell Theological Seminary in Jacksonville, Florida.

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Much of his ministry has focused on issues related to sexual abuse and assault and sexual trafficking.

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He and his wife, Lindsay, have co-authored The Moody Book, Is It My Fault?

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Hope and Healing for Those Suffering Domestic Violence, and Earlier Crossway Book,

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Rid of My Disgr disgrace, hope and healing

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for sexual assault victims. We're really glad to have you, Justin. I'm glad to be here and

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thank you for talking about these tough topics. And it's easier for people to avoid and instead

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