What Some Gaza Protest Voters See in Trump
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🗓️ 9 October 2024
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Summary
With the U.S. Presidential election less than a month away, and the war in Gaza now ongoing for a full year, the group of voters who are “uncommitted” to a candidate remains a wild card. Thousands of Democratic voters say that they will not vote for Kamala Harris because of her support for Israel’s war effort. The New Yorker staff writer Andrew Marantz joins Tyler Foggatt to discuss the potential impact of such protest voters. “If you’re antiwar . . . it can actually be really hard to figure out who represents your interests, if anyone,” Marantz says. “That’s the kind of information vacuum, the kind of ambiguity, that Trump thrives in.”
This week’s reading:
- “Reporting on Democratic Rifts in Michigan,” by Andrew Marantz
- “Among The Gaza Protest Voters,” by Andrew Marantz
- “The Gaza We Leave Behind,” by Mosab Abu Toha
- “A Year After October 7th, a Kibbutz Survives,” by Ruth Margalit
- “Why Netanyahu Won’t Cease Fire,” by Bernard Avishai
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| 0:00.0 | with less than a month until the election and one full year since the terrorist |
| 0:05.3 | attacks in Israel on October 7th. The Middle East is in crisis. |
| 0:10.3 | More than 40,000 Palestinian men, women, and children have been killed. |
| 0:15.4 | Israel has launched a ground operation in southern Lebanon. |
| 0:18.6 | It was Iran who struck tonight in the ever spiraling cycle of violence in the Middle East. |
| 0:25.2 | And the handling of this crisis has created a divide within the Democratic Party. |
| 0:29.6 | In Michigan, which has the largest Arab American population in the country. |
| 0:34.0 | Thousands of uncommitted Democratic voters say that they will not vote for Harris because of her support of Israel. |
| 0:40.0 | Which begs the question, in a race this close, could protest voters genuinely swing the election? |
| 0:47.5 | New Yorker Stack writer Andrew Marantz joins us today to discuss the uncommitted movement |
| 0:52.0 | and how the conflict in the Middle East |
| 0:53.6 | might shape what plays out in November. You're listening to the political scene. |
| 0:57.2 | I'm Tyler Foggett and I'm a senior editor at the New Yorker. Hey Andrew, thanks so much for coming on the show. |
| 1:07.0 | Of course. |
| 1:09.0 | Thank you for dragging me back into the horse race polling world, which is the only thing I like to think about. |
| 1:16.1 | So you recently finished writing a 9,000 word magazine piece on the uncommitted movement. You began following it when |
| 1:23.9 | Biden was still in the race and I'm wondering how the movement has evolved |
| 1:27.7 | since given that we now have a new candidate, Kamala Harris, and we've gone |
| 1:31.9 | from a war in Gaza to Israel also invading Lebanon and expanding |
| 1:36.3 | the conflict to Iran. |
| 1:37.3 | Yeah, I mean those changes were kind of happening as the peace was kind of being finalized and so a lot of the conversations I was having |
| 1:46.0 | with people toward the end of the reporting were you know how much does this change what we talked |
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