What’s the Story We’re Telling? + Sen. Ruben Gallego (Crooked Con)

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🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 97 minutes

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Summary

Live from Crooked Con, Jon Favreau talks to Jen Psaki, Faiz Shakir, Lis Smith, Rebecca Katz, and Adam Jentleson about the narrative we’re pitching—not just about why Trump and the MAGA loons are bad, but why Democrats are good. Then, Sen. Ruben Gallego joins Jon Lovett to talk about how Democrats can win on immigration and how to run a localized race when all politics feels national.

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0:00.0	This episode is brought to you by MS Now, we the people, in order to form a more perfect union.
0:07.4	These words are more than just the opening of the Constitution. They're a reminder of who this
0:11.8	country belongs to and what we can be at our best. There are also the cornerstone of MS now,
0:17.5	whether it's breaking news, exclusive reporting, election coverage or in-depth analysis,
0:22.7	MS Now keeps the people at the heart of everything they do.
0:26.3	Home to the Rachel Maddow show.
0:28.2	Morning, Joe, the briefing with Jen Saki and more voices you know and trust.
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0:35.2	Their name is new, but you'll find the same commitment to justice, progress, and the truth
0:40.3	you've relied on for decades.
0:42.2	We'll continue to cover the day's news, ask the tough questions, and explain how it impacts
0:46.8	you.
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0:52.5	Learn more at MS. Now. I'm John Fabro. We are live at CrookedCon.
1:16.6	So, this is a panel about the story that Democrats choose to tell voters about what we believe, where we want to take the country,
1:29.3	and how we'll get there. I'm biased as a former speechwriter, but I think figuring that out is
1:35.4	one of the more important tasks for the party and one that is under-discussed. We talk a lot
1:41.6	about issues, policy positions, slogans, specific messages. I think we
1:46.4	don't talk enough about how they all fit together in a cohesive, persuasive narrative. And so I am
1:53.7	very lucky to be joined by some of the most brilliant strategists and storytellers in our party
1:59.2	to talk to me about this.
2:01.6	My friends, Jen Saki of MS Now.
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