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From the opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal, this is Potomac Watch.

President Trump orders a stunning military operation to capture Venezuelan President

Nicholas Maduro inside his fortress in Caracas, and it works without an American

casualty. Remarkable military exercise. Maduro is now in a New York jail where he will be

arraigned and put on trial. What comes next for Venezuela? And can the U.S. negotiate a

transition of power from the Maduro dictatorship, still run by Maduro's successors in Caracas,

to a democracy that is much more favorable to

American interests. That's our subject for today on Potomac Watch, the daily podcast of the Wall

Street Journal opinion pages. I'm Paul Gigot, and I am here today with my colleague Mary Anastasia

O'Grady, who is our longtime columnist on Latin America's

covered Venezuela going back some 30 years now, Mary.

Certainly, you covered it from the beginning of the Chevista revolution in the early 2000s.

Let's listen first to Donald Trump talk about who's going to be running Venezuela now.

We're dealing with the people that just got sworn in. And don't ask me, who's in charge,

because I'll give you an answer and it'll be very controversial. What does that mean?

We're in charge. Well, okay, Mary, no hemming and hawing there about who's going to be running it. Trump says we're going to be running it. That's what he also said Saturday. But Marco Rubio on Sunday said, actually, we're not going to be running it. We'll be influencing them. And he said, we are going to maintain our oil embargo on Venezuelan exports, and that will be enough to squeeze

Maduro's successors, including his immediate successor, Vice President Delci Rodriguez,

who's now in charge, now the new interim president, I guess, to bend her to American will.

How do you see things evolving, Mary? Well, you know, I think

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