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The Next Level

What's Next for the Populists? (with Josh Green)

The Next Level

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.83.2K Ratings

🗓️ 7 January 2024

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

NYT bestselling author Josh Green joins Tim to discuss his new book, The Rebels: Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, and the Struggle for a New American Politics. 

They go over Josh's hypothesis as to why a progressive didn't get the Democratic nomination in 2020, how the movement pushed Biden's agenda to the left, what the future holds for the party after Trump and Biden are gone, and why populism on the right has taken over the GOP in a way it hasn't for Democrats. 

Pre-order Josh's book here: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/586025/the-rebels-by-joshua-green/

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to the Boerks next level Sunday interview.

0:10.0

I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:11.8

This week I got an old pal Josh Green. He's got a new book out this

0:16.1

week on Tuesday called The Rebels, Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Alexandria Acasio

0:21.2

Cortez, and the struggle for a new American politics.

0:24.8

He also wrote, Devil's Bargain, Steve Bannon, Donald Trump, and the storming of the presidency

0:29.1

back in 2017.

0:30.1

And I gotta tell you, it was probably the best of the early phase books examining how

0:36.2

the populace right came to power.

0:39.0

The interview I think is super interesting.

0:41.0

I feel like we spend a lot of time talking about the

0:42.8

populace right here at the bulwark and a little less talking about the

0:46.4

populace left so I wanted to dig into that. I also just want a flag here first

0:51.2

Sunday show at 2024. It's an election year I'm going to be doing

0:54.8

my best to give you guys you know some fun breaks some fun interviews you know do

1:00.6

with some Jane Lynch throwbacks.

1:03.1

You can go through the archives and see all the

1:05.6

uninteresting people that we've had.

1:07.4

You know, we had little Stephen over the holidays

1:09.4

and he was awesome if you've missed that.

1:10.9

But in an election year,

1:12.2

we're gonna have to do some politics sometimes so just you know stick with me

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