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WSJ What’s News

What's News in Earnings: Why Some Money Managers Are Trailing the Market

WSJ What’s News

The Wall Street Journal

News, Daily News

44K Ratings

🗓️ 11 August 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Bonus Episode for Aug. 11. Shares of publicly traded private-equity firms like Blackstone and Apollo are down year-to-date, trailing the broader market, while shares of traditional asset managers like BlackRock have outperformed. Heard on the Street columnist Telis Demos discusses this divide and how it relates to the firms’ second-quarter earnings. WSJ reporter Miriam Gottfried hosts this special bonus episode of What's News in Earnings, where we dig into companies’ earnings reports and analyst calls to find out what’s going on under the hood of the American economy. Sign up for the WSJ's free Markets A.M. newsletter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:18.6

Hey listeners, it's Monday, August 11th.

0:21.3

I'm Miriam Gottfried for the Wall Street Journal.

0:24.0

And this is What's News in Earnings, our look at the broad themes that stood out in the latest earnings season.

0:30.4

So shares of publicly traded private equity firms, also known as alternative asset managers,

0:36.3

typically rise and fall with public markets, often with

0:39.4

slightly bigger swings in both directions.

0:42.6

That's because their earnings are tied to the valuations of the companies they own in their

0:47.2

portfolios, and those tend to track comparable public companies, but they also usually carry

0:53.2

a significant amount of debt, which

0:54.6

means that the ups and downs can be magnified. Ever since the start of this year, though,

1:00.2

the stock performance of firms like Blackstone, Apollo, and KKR seems to have come a little bit

1:05.7

uncoupled from the performance of the broader markets. And President Trump's tariffs are

1:10.6

only part of the story. Now, the performance of the broader markets. And President Trump's tariffs are only part of the story.

1:12.8

Now, the performance of these companies matters because they're the biggest fee payers to

1:16.5

Wall Street banks.

1:17.7

And their earnings can also be a window into the health of the capital markets more broadly,

1:22.5

especially the IPO market.

1:26.7

Heard-on-the-street columnist and take on the week host, TELUS Demos is here to take a look at the

1:32.0

second quarter results for these asset managers and see if we can unpack what is going on.

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