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Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

What’s Indigenous Science? with Dr. Jessica Hernandez

Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Science, Self-improvement, Comedy, Education, Society & Culture

4.921.5K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2022

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Indigenous peoples represent about five percent of the world’s population—and sustain nearly 80 percent of the world’s biodiversity. This week, Dr. Jessica Hernandez joins Jonathan to discuss the principles of Indigenous science, Indigenous land stewardship, and what it will take to heal Indigenous landscapes. Dr. Jessica Hernandez (Maya Ch’orti’ & Binnizá) is a transnational Indigenous scholar, scientist, and community advocate based in the Pacific Northwest. In her new book Fresh Banana Leaves: Healing Indigenous Landscapes Through Indigenous Science (out now!), she breaks down why western conservationism isn’t working–and offers Indigenous models informed by case studies, personal stories, and family histories that center the voices of Latin American women and land protectors. You can follow Dr. Hernandez on Twitter and Instagram @doctora_nature, and keep up with her work at www.jessicabhernandez.com. For more resources about Native and Indigenous lands, visit landback.org and native-land.ca. Find out what today’s guest and former guests are up to by following us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN. Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com. Check out Getting Curious merch at PodSwag.com. Listen to more music from Quiñ by heading over to TheQuinCat.com. Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Getting Curious. I'm Jonathan Van Ness. And every week I sit down for a gorgeous

0:04.4

conversation with a brilliant expert to learn all about something that makes me curious.

0:09.0

On today's episode, I'm joined by Dr. Jessica Hernandez, where I ask her,

0:13.5

how amazing is Indigenous science?

0:18.0

Welcome to Getting Curious. This is Jonathan Van Ness. I am so excited for this episode for

0:22.6

a myriad of reasons, but very first for me to get into it, I'm going to introduce our guest.

0:26.3

She is Dr. Jessica Hernandez, who is an Indigenous scholar, scientist and community advocate

0:32.5

based in the Pacific Northwest. In her new book, which just came out yesterday,

0:37.7

called Fresh Banana Leaves, she breaks down why Western conservation isn't working,

0:43.2

and introduces a different model for healing landscapes through Indigenous science.

0:48.0

Welcome Dr. Jessica Hernandez. How are you?

0:50.4

Good. Thank you for having me.

0:51.9

Oh my gosh, pleasure is ours. So in some of our episodes around like damn displacement and a few

0:58.6

other ones, we started to hear more of our experts and some of our guests tell us about Indigenous

1:05.6

sciences and different ways in which Indigenous communities see or utilize science and medicine and

1:14.2

land and all sorts of cool stuff. And I was like, I'm new to this party. I need to understand

1:19.8

more about this. This is so genius and interesting and I would just love to learn more,

1:25.3

which then introduces you because you're a literal Indigenous scholar scientist

1:32.3

checking all the boxes. Forgive me for not knowing this prior, but is Fresh Banana Leaves your

1:38.0

first book? Yes, it is. Yeah, it is my first book. So you have excited.

1:42.3

Congratulations. I mean, I'm sure being like a doctor, you've written like a lot of like long

1:48.0

stuff, but how was it kind of bringing your passions together in this book because

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