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The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

What’s in a Nation?

The Remnant with Jonah Goldberg

The Dispatch

Politics, News

4.66.3K Ratings

🗓️ 14 July 2022

⏱️ 88 minutes

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Summary

Paul Miller, Georgetown professor and regular contributor to The Dispatch, returns to The Remnant to discuss his new book, The Religion of American Greatness: What’s Wrong with Christian Nationalism. In formidably highfalutin fashion, he and Jonah explore what drives mankind’s nationalistic impulse, why Christianity and nationalism have historically been intertwined in America, and what should hold our country together beyond the creed outlined in the Declaration of Independence. Stick around to hear Paul turn the tables on Jonah and ask him a few questions about the legacy of Suicide of the West.

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Oh

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Let a gentleman

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Can I please have your attention?

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Stay yo

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Tell you, Jing-A!

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Ladies and gentlemen, this is Jonah Goldberg host of the Remnant Podcast,

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brought to you by the Dispatch and Dispatch Media.

0:33.3

It is early in the morning and I'm very excited to have a return guest

0:39.1

to talk about his new book. We'll talk about that in a second.

0:44.5

Paul Miller, as some of you may remember, is a professor at Georgetown,

0:48.6

but he's had all sorts of cool positions in government with like fancy kind of foreign policy

0:57.4

and intelligence kind of verbiage going with them. I won't get into details because I can't

1:02.1

remember them. I just remember that they're cool. Whenever I talk to people like Paul or frankly

1:09.2

Clon or my wife who worked for John Ashcroft during the whole beginning of the War on Terror stuff

1:18.5

after 9-11, I always have this sort of unarticulable resentment because I know they know cool stuff that

1:24.1

they won't tell me. But fortunately we don't have to get into all of that today. Instead we're going

1:30.6

to get into his book, The Religion of American Greatness, What's Wrong with Christian Nationalism.

1:37.5

And there's even a forward by the dispatches own David French. Paul welcome back to the Remnant.

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Thanks so much for having me back. I appreciate it. All right, so the standard question for

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for book talks on this podcast is what's your book about? So what's your book about?

1:53.0

Yeah, thanks for the question. The book is about Christian nationalism as the subtitle says,

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started this book six or seven years ago. When I kind of looked around and realized I no longer

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