Hello, my name is David Ronserman and this is Talking Politics. It's been a little more than a month since we last spoke to Lucia Rubinelli, who is locked down in Northern Italy about the situation there.

We thought it was time that we caught up.

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Lucia is locked down in the mountains, the weather's not great nor is the internet connection.

So we apologise if it sounds like there's a bit of interference on the line.

Hi, Lucia. Hello. How are you to start with? A month on.

I'm a bit bored at the moment, especially because we were hoping that the situation would ease a bit, especially because I mean, as more village in the out.

But a week ago, we dared to go a bit further than allowed in our daily walk and the police caught us.

And it was not a nice five minutes.

Wow. What were you threatened with?

800 euros. Yeah, fine of 800 euros.

I knew you'd gone further because they'd been tracking you or you just were outside of the permitted zone.

Yeah, no, no, no, no, they know who we are. It's a small village. And we're not normal residents of the village.

So of course, they've taken good care in making sure that they know who is living here and where.

And since when we arrived and what we're doing, what is our car? So yeah, we are definitely under surveillance at the moment.

Well, last time we spoke, Italy was ahead of us in the UK. And we were sort of talking to you because you were the future.

And now we're kind of roughly in the same space. They're obviously you're still further along.

Those dollars of talking to you, K about when and how this will be lifted and then interesting public opinion surveys suggesting that people are really resistant to lifting various aspects of this.

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