Regular listeners of How to Fail will know how obsessed I am with reality television and that's why I'm so excited that I get to talk to you about the return of one of my favorite shows.

Van der Popp rules is back for a brand new season on Hey You and well there's a lot to unpack.

I'm frothing with excitement because the Pump Rules gang is back on our screens with new episodes

dropping the same day as the US on Hey You. You.

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because with a show this hot, nobody wants spoilers.

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That's H-A-Y-U-D-C-O-C-O-C-O-C-O-C-O-C-O-C-O-C-O-O-C-O-T-O-T-E-T-E-E-T-E-T-E-T-E-T-E-O-T-O-T-O-T-O and you can thank me later. Welcome to Curious Now, Curious Now, I'm Jonathan Van Ness and every other week I sit down with a brilliant expert to go beyond the headlines.

Before we go any further, we want to acknowledge the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine.

Since this is a fast-moving situation, we're not going to report on one specific headline.

What we will say is that every civilian life loss so far is tragic.

The world is mourning and watching.

We should all be doing what we can to

de-escalate the current conflict and save as many lives as we still can.

Everyone deserves the right to food, water, medical care, freedom, mobility, and safety. Beyond that,

kids deserve the right to play, to learn, and to live in a world that sees a future

for them. We also know that in times like this, misinformation and

disinformation can spread rapidly. It's on all of us to check our sources and

stick with the facts. And now back to this week's episode.

Today we're speaking with Activists And now back to this week's episode.

Today, we're speaking with activists and organizers Justin Garner and Emily Wright.

We last spoke with them in March 2023, one month after a train carrying dangerous chemicals derailed in East Palestine, Ohio.

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