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Where are you lucky?

And I'm lucky as well. By the way, welcome back. I'm Tom Gresham. It's Guntaught.

The reason you're lucky is because not often do you get to spend time with a pioneer. That's not me.

Not often do you get to spend time with a pioneer? That's not me. Not often do you get to spend time with a legend? No, again. Sorry, not me. But our next guest is, a pioneer in the self-defense world, one of the very first to write about

self-defense with firearms, one of the very first to realize that people who

carry guns or use guns and self-defense need legal training some almost 40 years ago

started training people on the legal side of that.

I wrote the definitive book which of course have been a lot of them since then but it's still

the ones that people who are in the no say you need a copy of in the gravest

extreme by Masada you joined us right now it's got a new book out but He's got some other things, some revolutionary,

some interesting data for us.

Masada, you joins us.

Hey, how you doing, Pardon?

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