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Coffee House Shots

What’s behind the Tory revolt on refugee relief?

Coffee House Shots

The Spectator

News, Politics, Government, Daily News

4.42.1K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2022

⏱️ 14 minutes

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Summary

While Europe opens its arms up to the Ukrainians fleeing war, the UK is taking a much slower approach. While people are allowed to come in relatively quickly if they have family here, that definition of family is extremely limited. Our response is causing confusion with the public but seemingly also within the Conservative party.

Katy Balls and James Forsyth are joined by Kate Andrews from Calais who has been spending the last two days talking to refugees on the ground looking to seek refuge in Britain.

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0:00.0

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0:25.8

Hello and welcome to Coffee House shotsots, The Spectator's Daily Politics Podcast.

0:30.7

I'm Katie Balls, and I'm joined by James Fasife and Kate Andrews, who joins us down the line from Calais.

0:39.2

James, we just had Prime Minister's questions, and Boris Johnson was put under pressure, actually, by his own side when it comes to the UK's current offer to Ukrainian refugees. What happened? So Julian Smith, the former Chief Whip,

0:44.6

who served as Boris Johnson's first Northern Ireland secretary, essentially said that the public

0:49.7

wanted the country to be more generous in terms of Ukrainians and for the Home Office

0:55.0

to get it to grip on the situation. And I think that you see there is clearly mounting

1:00.0

Tory dissatisfaction with how the Home Office are handling this. And I don't think the news

1:05.8

reporters today, but there's going to be a kind of pop-up centre in Lille, 70 or miles from Calais, is going to deal

1:14.3

with that problem. I think people have a sense that at the moment the rules are being applied

1:20.8

in an overly finger-checking manner that the board of deputies have written to the government

1:26.1

about a lady who survived both the Holocaust and before that the kind of deputies have written to the government about a lady who survived both the Holocaust

1:28.4

and before that the kind of Soviet famine in the Ukraine and yet cannot get approved to come to the UK

1:34.7

to live with one of her grandchildren who is here.

1:38.0

And I think there are more and more of these human cases.

1:41.1

And I mean there is mounting pressure on the government to do more, something that

1:45.2

Kate reflects in her cover story in the magazine this week. Kate, when it comes to the roots for

1:51.0

refugees into this country coming from Ukraine, there are technically two routes. Now, I think

1:56.9

the one where we're actually seeing some results were still very limited is, you know,

2:01.2

family members who are here, so joining family. But what about the second rate of sponsorship?

2:06.0

Because it's been talked about, but yet we know very little. Yeah, we don't know very much.

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