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What’s behind the climate culture wars?

Make Me Smart

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Business, News

4.65.5K Ratings

🗓️ 25 January 2023

⏱️ 24 minutes

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Summary

With all the rage tweets about gas stoves, it may be hard to believe, but climate change wasn’t always so polarizing.

Studies show that public opinion on the topic started to splinter in the 1990s, when governments and corporations had to reckon with the threat of a warming planet.

“Prior to 1997, it was a conversation among a bunch of scientists, but once the Kyoto treaty came, it became an issue that affected powerful political and economic interests,” said Andrew Hoffman, professor of sustainable enterprise at the University of Michigan and author of “How Culture Shapes the Climate Change Debate.”

On the show today: Hoffman explains how climate change became a partisan issue, the financial and economic interests that got us to where we are today, and what might get us back to some common ground.

In the News Fix, guest host Amy Scott tells us about an ad campaign bringing attention to gender bias in internet search results. Plus, we’ll explain why classified documents in surprising places is more common than you might expect. And stick around for the TL;DR on Elon Musk’s trial over what he said about Tesla on Twitter (the social media platform he now owns).

Later, we’ll hear from a listener who did the math on the cost-effectiveness of fueling up with diesel vs. gas, and a loyal listener makes us smarter about our own theme music!

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Transcript

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0:00.0

There we go.

0:01.0

Hey everybody, I'm Kai, Rizdo.

0:07.3

Welcome back to Make Me Smarts.

0:08.9

And if it's not, welcome back then where you've been.

0:11.0

Anyway, none of us is as smart as all of us.

0:13.1

That's what we say on this podcast.

0:15.3

That's right.

0:16.3

And I'm Amy Scott in for Kimberly Adams.

0:18.1

Thank you for joining us.

0:19.1

It's Tuesday, which means it's time to dive deep into a single topic.

0:23.4

And today we're all going to get smarter about how climate issues became so politically

0:29.4

divisive.

0:30.4

How did this happen?

0:32.8

That's something as seemingly simple as a gas stove in your kitchen makes the Internet

0:38.6

explode and becomes a huge culture war topic.

0:42.6

Makes me crazy.

0:43.6

And here to help us understand all this is Andrew Hoffman.

0:47.0

He's a professor of sustainable enterprise at the University of Michigan and author of

0:51.5

how culture shapes the climate change debate.

0:55.3

Welcome to the program.

0:56.3

Well, it's a pleasure to be here.

0:58.3

Thank you.

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