This is Hidden Killers with Tony Brewski. Today we are going back into one of the most baffling cases in recent

memory. The suspicious death of Ellen Greenberg and we're going to keep digging into this case

because it deserves being dug into. Despite lots of people being silenced about this case.

More has happened in the last, I would say, 72 to 48 hours as of this recording than has happened in the last 14 years

because of the persistence and because of a parent's love for their daughter and seeking justice. For over a decade,

the official ruling of suicide has defied logic. And we were just supposed to sit and go,

oh, if you say that's true, it must be true. She turned into a zombie and stabbed herself

after she died. That's essentially what the story is. Now after

relentless efforts by Ellen's family, a major shift has finally taken place. The very medical

examiner who initially ruled her death a suicide has reversed her decision, stating the manner of death should be something

other than suicide. With us today is retired FBI Special Agent Robin Dreek, former chief

of the Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program to help break down the behavioral

anomalies, investigative missteps, and possible motives behind the actions,

or inactions.

Those who've long defended the ruling, let's start out here.

When you look at the official handling of this case, Robin, from the initial police response

to the medical examiner's ruling that seemingly was locked in for 14 years,

despite the overwhelming forensic inconsistencies, and the fact that originally was homicide

and then changed to suicide.

And now they're saying, no, this is something other than suicide.

What jumps out at you as in terms of investigative red

flags in this whole catastrophe that is the case of Ellen Greenberg?

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