All right, I'm Dave Rubin. We are on location in Miami. I am with Alex Lloyd. Co-author of

the little Bitcoin book, Why Bitcoin Matters for Your Freedom, Finances, and Future. We're

obviously in the right city for that. So Lloyd, why does it matter?

No, we came at this book from a human rights perspective. One of my co-authors, Alex

Glasstein, is a chief strategy officer of the Human Rights Foundation. And there

were a lot of books out there about the technical nature and the financial nature of

why Bitcoin is important. This one really gives more socio-political aspect.

Why everyday people are going to, a bit point, is going to be important to them. And that's

kind of the angle we took.

So we talked about this a little bit at dinner last night. I mean, basically, you think

Bitcoin will sort of free people as these systems around us kind of go down. Is that fair

to say?

I think what it is, it's a democratization of capital. If you think of the history of

how individuals got more power in the world, it started with democracy. There's a lot

of steps here. But democracy has a political system. I think another step that you might

think of is freedom of speech in the internet, which let anybody be a publisher and a creator.

And I think Bitcoin is the next step, which is people can be their own banks and have

their own individual freedom. Whereas the internet in a way was a way to let any two people

exchange ideas and information. And Bitcoin is going to be a way that any two people can

exchange value. And that's a big part of this book.

So since most of my audience is pretty tech savvy, but not everybody, for the person that's

watching this right now that has no Bitcoin, they've heard the word Bitcoin. They're like,

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