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Death is an undeniable part of existence.

And also just like newsflash, I think we're all going to die.

So to learn all about this today, we have an incredible guest, nurse Julie McFadden, who is the author of her new book, Nothing to Fear. How are you, Julie? Hi, thank you for having me. I cannot wait to talk about this as weird as that sounds. No, no, I'm so excited that you're here. I'm so excited to learn more about death. That also sounds weird. But before we dive in, you and I, before we started recording today, we did take a field trip to our refreshment station. And while we were there, I complimented your color. And also while we were there, I felt your ponytail. And I just have to say, if there's any hairdressers watching this, if you're listening to this, you may have to, like, go to Instagram to, like, check it out. But your hair is so

thick and gorgeous. And, like, the hair that you were serving us today, you said below dry. You said, if I'm going to talk about death, I'm going to give you some good ass hair. And so I just want to say, as a hairdresser, I see you, I applaud this work. And, like, yes, Queen. How are you doing? I'm doing good and And thank you for, I was honestly hoping you'd say something about my hair. I feel like this is just good genes and also Doreen. I will. I'll tag her on my Instagram. Doreen, my 13 years. 13 years. She's been doing my hair. Oh my God, we love Doreen. I know. Okay. So Doreen transitions to death. Yes. So you're a hospice nurse. I'm a hospice nurse. So can you tell people what that is? So I'm a nurse. People often don't think hospice nurses are nurses. So, you know, I have a degree in nursing, and I was an ICU nurse, which is basically

the opposite of a hospice nurse for many years, you know, intensive care unit, trying to keep

people alive. And because of that experience, I became a hospice nurse, which is someone who is also

a nurse who helps people die more peacefully and understand what's going to happen

to their body and to them and to their loved ones during that process because it usually is a

process.

So what's people's reaction usually if they meet you and then they're like, what do you do?

And then you're like, I'm a hospice nurse.

Like, how do people react?

Most people do the whole like, ugh.

It's either, uh, that's depressing or, oh, you're like an angel, which is also even more awkward, I think.

Why do you think people have such a hard time talking about death?

Because I have a similar kind of feeling and response.

Well, one, I think it's really normal. So I think

it's normal that people have a hard time with it. Hence why I am here. Hence why I started hospice nurse

Julie, because I think we need to change the way we look at death and dying because it's inevitable,

whether it's quick, whether it's slow, whether, you know, it's from cancer, it's from a car accident. I think it's going to happen, right? And I believe that the more education we have about it, the less we will fear, the less. You still have some fear because we're human, and that's like an emotion. Yeah. You'll still have some anxiety around it, some fear. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't talk about it, shouldn't learn about it. And from what I've seen, the people who are willing to do that feel a little better. Why? I think education. Because knowledge is power. Yeah, knowledge is power. Like, I think the mystery, there is a mystery behind death, right? It's like the great unknown. But there are some things about the dying process

that most people in the population do not know.

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