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What Next - Why Killing Sinwar Won’t End the War

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News Commentary, News, Politics

4.56K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2024

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Does the death of Yahya Sinwar finally make a ceasefire in Gaza possible? 


Guests: Jonathan Dekel-Chen, professor of Soviet and East European Jewry at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem and father of Sagui Dekel-Chen, one of the hostages held by Hamas. 


Gregg Carlstrom, Middle East correspondent for the Economist.


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Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme and Rob Gunther.



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0:00.0

Eddie, my own, has found us.

0:05.0

We have something he needs.

0:11.0

This world can't survive if you stay together.

0:15.0

We may not make it out of this alive, buddy.

0:18.0

Venom, The Last Dance.

0:22.0

Don't miss the epic conclusion.

0:24.0

Only in Cinemas October 25th.

0:27.0

But tickets now. When I heard that Israeli forces had killed the leader of Hamas in Gaza last week,

0:41.2

there's one person I wanted to talk to, someone we've had on the show before.

0:46.5

Jonathan Deckelgen.

0:51.7

There are about a hundred October 7th hostages remaining in Gaza. Jonathan's son,

0:57.1

Sagi is one of them. Jonathan heard the news about Yachya Sinwar at home.

1:04.0

He splits his time between Israel and Florida.

1:07.0

His first thought was something like relief,

1:11.0

a feeling that justice had been served. But that was followed immediately by fear.

1:17.0

The death of the undisputed leader of Hamas, as surprising as that may have been, in principle opens up opportunities for new

1:27.7

negotiations that you know seemingly Mr. No is no longer on the Palestinian side, on Hamas's side, is no longer on the scene.

1:37.7

Perhaps that could produce some new results.

1:41.6

The problem is that there's an equal truth, the fact that, look, we simply do not know how

1:48.6

the captors of our loved ones, all 101 of the hostages, how they will react. Amid the chaos, the post-Sienoir

1:57.7

chaos, it certainly gives us ample reason for worry.

2:11.5

Jonathan and his family have spent the last year being uncommonly open about their loss.

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