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What Next - Why Is ICE Masked Up?

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Society & Culture, News, Business

3.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2025

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

ICE agents have begun concealing their identities in masks and plainclothes while making arrests. Experts—including a former ICE official—say that endangers those agents, and violates the trust between law enforcement and the citizenry.

Guests:

Philip Bump, columnist for the Washington Post

Scott Shuchart, ICE’s Assistant Director for Regulatory Affairs and Policy Counselor to the Director, 2022–2025.

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Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther.


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Do you remember when it was surprising to see masked immigration officials detaining people on the street?

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I do.

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I remember how when a Turkish graduate student was plucked off the sidewalk in March,

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the whole masked agents thing was so shocking we spent a whole news cycle talking about it.

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Ramesa Ozturk had just left her apartment.

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When she's approached by a guy in a dark hoodie and hat who then grabs her hands, you can see...

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