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What Next | Trump v. the Judiciary

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🗓️ 5 May 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Is the arrest of Milwaukee County Judge Hannah Dugan the start of Trump’s open war on judges? Guest: Jeremy Fogel, retired federal judge and executive director for the Berkeley Judicial Institute. Want more What Next? Join Slate Plus to unlock full, ad-free access to What Next and all your  other favorite Slate podcasts. You can subscribe directly from the What Next show page on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. Or, visit slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, Ethan Oberman, Isabel Angell, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Amazon offers employees up to ÂŁ8,000 for education and training, like Juliet.

0:07.0

She's now a trained technician.

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And to her, the sound of machinery in need of repair, reminds her of how far she's come.

0:18.0

In two years, she's landed her dream job, providing her with valuable skills.

0:24.2

That's up to ÂŁ8,000 for education and training at Amazon. Eligibility conditions apply.

0:30.5

I'm Leon Nafak, and I'm the host of Slow Burn, Watergate. Before I started working on this show,

0:36.7

everything I knew about Watergate came from

0:38.8

the movie All the President's Men. Do you remember how it ends? Woodward and Bernstein are

0:43.3

sitting with their typewriters, clacking away. And then there's this rapid montage of newspaper stories,

0:48.2

about campaign aides and White House officials getting convicted of crimes, about audio tapes coming

0:52.7

out that proved Nixon's involvement

0:54.1

in the cover-up. The last story we see is Nixon resigns. It takes a little over a minute in the

1:00.9

movie. In real life, it took about two years. Five men were arrested early Saturday while trying

1:07.1

to install eavesdropping equipment. It's known as the Watergate incident.

1:13.3

What was it like to experience those two years in real time?

1:17.8

What were people thinking and feeling as the break-in at Democratic Party headquarters went from a weird little caper to a constitutional crisis that brought down the president?

1:22.9

The downfall of Richard Nixon was stranger, wilder, and more exciting than you can imagine.

1:27.8

Over the course of eight episodes, this show is going to capture what it was like to live

1:31.6

through the greatest political scandal of the 20th century.

1:34.7

With today's headlines, once again, full of corruption, collusion, and dirty tricks,

1:38.8

it's time for another look at the gate that started it all.

1:42.0

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