What Next - Trump’s Revenge Tour Is Here
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🗓️ 30 September 2025
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Summary
The president’s case against James Comey doesn’t look very strong to outside legal observers. But even the most spurious accusation against the former head of the FBI would matter when it comes from the sitting president.
Guest: Ankush Khardori, senior writer for POLITICO Magazine and former federal prosecutor in the US Justice Department.
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| 0:00.0 | Politico's Uncush Cardori can't talk about the indictment of former FBI director James Comey without laughing, just a bit to himself. |
| 0:17.5 | This has got to be one of the worst indictments that he was seen. |
| 0:23.1 | Uncush used to be a federal prosecutor. |
| 0:26.8 | It's not long. It's one and a half pages. |
| 0:29.3 | That took me about 30 seconds to read, yeah. |
| 0:31.6 | You've filed documents like this, right? |
| 0:34.2 | Yes, yes. Written, filed, yes. |
| 0:37.7 | This is not remotely the sort of charging document you see in a serious high-profile |
| 0:42.0 | criminal case. |
| 0:42.8 | It's thin, it's shoddy, and it's not well-written. |
| 0:50.5 | By now, you've heard the story of this indictment, the way one U.S. attorney refused to bring |
| 0:56.2 | the charges and found himself out of a job, how a second prosecutor, a Trump loyalist, was |
| 1:02.1 | subbed in to get this indictment done. The New York Times editorial board summed it all up by saying |
| 1:08.5 | the Comey indictment plunges the country into a grave |
| 1:12.2 | new period. But actually, I'd argue we're in the exact same period we were in before, maybe a |
| 1:19.9 | couple inches deeper in the muck. This indictment, after all, is about whether James Comey behaved |
| 1:26.1 | corruptly. |
| 1:32.5 | And how America thinks about corruption, President Trump has been trying to change that, |
| 1:35.0 | one investigation at a time. |
| 1:41.4 | Since Donald Trump has returned to office, I'm wondering how you've watched the definition of the term corruption change. |
| 1:45.0 | Oh, boy, that's a tricky question. |
| 1:48.0 | You know, I would say that the, I wouldn't say that the definition has changed so much, |
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