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What Next TBD: Turning Your Face Into Your Ticket

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🗓️ 2 July 2023

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Even if you like the convenience of your phone unlocking after it reads your face, there are reasons to be wary of the TSA bringing facial recognition technology to the airport. Guest: Geoffrey Fowler, technology columnist for the Washington Post. If you enjoy this show, please consider signing up for Slate Plus. Slate Plus members get benefits like zero ads on any Slate podcast, bonus episodes of shows like Slow Burn and Dear Prudence—and you’ll be supporting the work we do here on What Next TBD. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to help support our work. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

When you flew recently, did the airports you went through have facial recognition technology?

0:09.8

I flew through DCA, the Reagan International Airport in Washington, and it was one of the

0:14.4

first airports to get facial recognition with TSA.

0:21.2

That's Jeffrey Fowler, a technology columnist for the Washington Post.

0:25.4

I personally did not get my face scanned because I have TSA pre and they have not put that

0:31.2

technology into TSA pre yet.

0:33.0

Would you have done it?

0:34.7

No. Tell me why.

0:36.9

I'm also a journalist, so I would have wanted to test to see what they would have said.

0:42.0

But you know, I would tell listeners as well say no if only because it might sell you down by

0:48.0

a little bit today, but it also sends a message that the TSA should be noticing that people are

0:54.0

not comfortable with this.

0:56.0

If you're traveling this holiday or this summer, you might notice facial recognition at TSA checkpoints

1:02.1

too. At 25 airports in the US and Puerto Rico, the TSA is expanding a controversial digital

1:08.1

identification program that uses facial recognition.

1:11.3

Travelers may notice kiosk with small cameras checking photos on their IDs to verify their identities.

1:18.0

Often, as Jeffrey said, travelers are confused or uncomfortable when they first encounter this

1:23.3

tech. And an airport is not exactly the most relaxed environment to try to figure out on the

1:29.8

fly, whether you want to opt in to facial recognition.

1:33.5

So today on the show, we're going to break down how this tech ended up in US airports,

1:38.2

whether it works, and why Jeffrey is so skeptical.

1:42.4

I'm Lizzie O'Leary and you're listening to WhatNextTBD, a show about technology,

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