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What Next: TBD | The Nick Fuentes Problem

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News, News Commentary, Politics

4.66K Ratings

🗓️ 7 November 2025

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Nick Fuentes—an openly antisemitic, openly racist, openly sexist type who once was persona non grata in all but the unseemliest of online spaces—sat down with former Fox News star Tucker Carlson this week, setting off a debate between the “whoa whoa whoa, we’re not Nazis over here” branch of conservatives and the “well now, hold on a minute” wing. Guest: Ali Breland, staff writer for The Atlantic and author of “The Firewall Against Nick Fuentes Is Crumbling.”  Want more What Next TBD? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Last Tuesday, a new episode of the Tucker Carlson show popped up on YouTube. In it, the former Fox News host welcomed an unusual guest.

0:46.4

Nick Fuentes, thank you for doing this. Yeah, thank you for having me. I wanted to meet you. I've heard about you.

0:50.9

Calling Fuentes unusual is generous.

0:54.8

Really generous.

0:56.3

Because Fuentes is, let's be real, an anti-Semite.

1:00.3

I would say, though, that the main challenge to that, a big challenge to that, is organized Jewry in America.

1:08.4

I see Jewishness as the common denominator. Fentes is the leader of the so-called

1:13.7

America First Movement. In addition to the, quote, organized Jewery comments, he's called the Holocaust

1:20.5

exaggerated. He's called Hitler, really effing cool. He once compared the six million Jews killed by

1:26.8

the Nazis to cookies being baked in an oven.

1:30.3

And it's not just anti-Semitism. Nick is extremely famous for making really racist jokes.

1:37.1

That's Ali Breeland. He writes about tech and politics at the Atlantic.

1:41.7

Saying the N-word, saying that black people should be locked up, that Jim Crow segregation was good, all of these kinds of just, like, deeply, deeply heinous things. But in the conversation, Tucker basically gives him a past, like, not engage with these things.

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